There are a lot of mixed emotions flying around now that the election’s over, especially from the queer community and their allies. Like many, I’m elated about Obama’s victory, but I’m angry and disappointed that the bluest of blue states, California, voted 55% for Obama and yet 52% in favour of banning gay marriage.
But some of this anger is both misdirected and dangerous. Like that of sex columnist Dan Savage, who basically places all the blame for Prop 8 with Black voters, who voted 70% in favour of the ban.
I’m looking at the same exit poll data he cites, and it’s a little more complicated than that. Seventy-five percent of Black women voted for the ban - the exit poll was too small to calculate similar numbers for Black men. But Black voters in total make up just 10% of the vote.
True, this suggests a certain amount of homophobia amongst African Americans in California. The solution, though, is not to imply that homophobic Black folks are responsible for holding back the advancement of queer people in America.
First of all, why not put the blame on white voters aged 65 and over, who voted 59% in favour of the ban? Or on whites who never attended college, who voted 58% in favour? It’s completely arbitrary to single out 10% of the electorate and claim their votes made the difference.
And then there’s this:
“I’ll eat my shorts if gay and lesbian voters went for McCain at anything approaching the rate that black voters went for Prop 8.”
As if the two are comparable. Obama isn’t a special interest candidate. No matter how teary-eyed queer people in America are about the significance of the country electing its first black president, the vast majority of them didn’t vote for him because he was Black. They voted for him because he’s a Democrat, and because he’s for civil unions and he’s got the best healthcare plan, and since gay men were just about wiped out by AIDS healthcare’s been a pretty big issue for the community.
Savage makes it sound like queer Americans did Black folks a favour, and now they’re entitled to call it in. It’s hateful, it’s unhelpful, and this kind of thinking could set us all back decades.


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Cate, thanks for posting this, now I can quit working on my post about this same issue... it is really important to call out this kind of unproductive behaviour.
Posted by piKe
November 6, 2008, 5:02 PM
No! Not Dan Savage! He's usually awesome, but that's just...not cool.
Like, I think it's important to address homophobia in the African-American community, but this kind of blame game is really not the way to go about it.
Posted by Lindsay
November 6, 2008, 5:16 PM
Cate, I think you're going overboard on this one, especially noting Dan's end comment: "African American gays and lesbians are the ones who suffer the most from African American homophobia."
He is, however, wrong: exit poll data shows that 30% of gay & lesbian voters went for McCain (only 23% went for Bush four years ago, but I can think of a good number of possible reasons why the gap was wider in the last election to this one...one of which is the perceived hostility of the straight black community, including Obama's early campaign flirtation with a homophobic black preacher).
I think you have a good point about the other demographic factions which went for Prop 8, but ultimately I don't think Dan Savage wrote anything that wasn't true. As queers we do need to be asking how best to work in solidarity with queer African Americans. I don't think you're trying to shut down discussion on that point, but...how do you think we should encourage it?
Posted by Thene
November 6, 2008, 5:17 PM
On Feministing they linked to an article at The Nation which offered a different explanation why Prop 8 passed in Cali.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081124...
Posted by C.K.
November 7, 2008, 5:23 PM
I stopped reading Dan Savage a while ago because of his objectionable comments on others. In past columns and his books he has been extremely fat-phobic and bi-phobic. Unfortunately since the general consensus is that he is awesome and progressive, a lot of the unacceptable things he says fly under the radar, and people don't realize he really isn't all that awesome and has a lot of prejudices. They shouldn't.
Posted by Denise
November 7, 2008, 5:26 PM
oops, "they shouldn't" = "they shouldn't be ignoring all the really objectionable comments he makes."
Posted by Denise
November 7, 2008, 5:29 PM
"First of all, why not put the blame on white voters aged 65 and over, who voted 59% in favour of the ban? Or on whites who never attended college, who voted 58% in favour? It’s completely arbitrary to single out 10% of the electorate and claim their votes made the difference."
except that it's NOT arbitrary, not in the eyes of those wrongly pointing fingers, OR in the eyes of those attempting to understand on a larger level what this means for queer movement.. the reason (NOT saying it's right, but just to demonstrate that it's not meaningless) that the black vote has been singled out is because 1) they had the largest ratio of YES voters and 2) the No on 8 movement mistakingly (before and after the election) are expecting some kind of minority solidarity from the black community, thinking that they would understand the notion of implementing discrimination into a state constitution.
I'm NOT saying that those pointing their fingers are right. But I also don't think that those saying the connection is arbitrary are interrogating the issue enough.n
Posted by anna
November 10, 2008, 2:13 AM
"They voted for him because he’s a Democrat, and because he’s for civil unions and he’s got the best healthcare plan, and since gay men were just about wiped out by AIDS healthcare’s been a pretty big issue for the community."
and if you think queer people voted for Obama because we have all that AIDS in our communities, that's insulting and off-base. healthcare is an issue for all americans.
Posted by anna
November 10, 2008, 2:17 AM
It's not insulting to suggest that the queer community has been disproportionately affected by AIDS in the US, because it has, and I mentioned it because AIDS sparked a tidal wave of support for universal healthcare by the community.
Of course it's an issue for all Americans, but it's especially important for people who have watched everyone they know battle terminal illness, and do so without any financial support from the government.
Posted by Cate
November 10, 2008, 12:03 PM
Cate, Anna - keep in mind that the candidate who made that connection (that you can get gays to vote for you by having a good AIDS strategy) was John McCain, in comments he made in an interview with the Washington Blade - an LGBT newspaper.
Posted by Thene
November 10, 2008, 4:31 PM
Whoa, there's another Anna in the community! I feel like it's prom night and I've shown up in the same dress as someone else.
(Um... not really. Just wanted to point out that we are two separate people.)
Posted by Anna Lev
November 10, 2008, 4:49 PM
Look, I'm not saying gay people are Democrats because of "AIDS strategy", I'm saying that gay people tend to be Democrats because the party is for things that benefit us, while the Republicans are very definitely not.
Posted by Cate
November 10, 2008, 4:51 PM
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